Stop the war!

mpv · 2022-02-24 07:40:16

Today I woke up at 4 am from rocket explosions. In Kiev. In the centre of Europe. Russia started a war against my country and the entire civilized world.
Do not believe a single word of Russian propaganda, All the words of their officials are lies.
Tell that to your friends and your goverment. Help us stop the war.
See you after our victory!

Pavlo, Kyiv, Ukraine

ab · 2022-02-24 08:08:18

I was thinking about you this morning.

Take care, and we would definitively tell others what you said.

pvn0 · 2022-02-24 08:20:07

Stay safe Pavlo! Slovenia is a small country but our government and we the people fully support the Ukrainians and your right to exist as a nation. The EU nations must come together on this or EU be damned!

wloochacz · 2022-02-24 14:01:18

Take care MPV, we understand very well what Putin is doing and what his goal is. The rest of the world is just waking up, but Ukrainians and Poles have had their experiences with Putin. He is an extremely hypocritical dictator.
I'm from Poland, so I' quite close to you and my thoughts are with the Ukrainian Nation.

Слава Україні!

oz · 2022-02-24 17:24:52

We all woke up in a different world today.
This whole situation is so sad and unbelievable.
By starting this war Putin prooved to the world that he is nothing less then the next Adolf Hitler.
He is totally insane and I'm sure he won't stop once he's done with Ukraine. Just listen to his spoken and written words...
It was a massive mistake from the rest of the world to "tolerate" the annexation of Krim in 2014.

My grandma was a refugee escaping from Ukraine at the end of WW2.
My mom is born in Germany, me too. But there is 100% ukrainian blood running through my vains.

This all just feels so unreal...

Pavlo, stay safe!!!

Слава Україні! - Героям слава!

Last edited by oz (2022-02-24 17:25:11)

edwinsn · 2022-02-25 08:39:09

@MPV,
Sorry to hear about that, take care of yourself and your family and stay safe!

dcoun · 2022-02-25 10:55:27

I read that Kyiv is a real battlefield with Russian troops of both ordinary and secret army.
Take care of yourself and your family, we are with you!

Eugene Ilyin · 2022-02-25 21:47:09

Please stay in safe MPV!

I'm Russian and was shocked when this insane bastard decided to fully open this Pandora's box
I'm feeling deep shame for our goverment and all this kleptocracy.

One of my grandfathers was Ukrainian and his stories about the WWII were terrific.
Hope that invaders will get enough bloody arguments to stop this mess.

Never thought that Kiev (where I was several times) will be bombarded with winged missiles in the 21st century

Слава Украине! - Героям слава!

Last edited by Eugene Ilyin (2022-02-25 21:49:35)

Milos · 2022-02-27 13:24:02

It is truly terrible what is happening and I hope the madness will stop soon. Try to stay safe

EMartin · 2022-02-27 15:47:15

I'm so sorry Pavlov. I'm from Argentina and our government is a shame, they are pro russian because they are corrupts like any populist government and need money from China and Russia and they only make a weak opposition to Putin's genocidal attack. Many people from my country are with your. I just wait that the world rest can help to Ukraine.

Leslie7 · 2022-02-27 23:29:02

Pavlo,

the way your people are fighting sets an example for the rest of the world. If you can stand your ground long enough, it will cause more and more problems to Putin.

I do not know if you have any connections to military leaders, but there are strategic questions that bother me.

1. Even today there was news about a large Russian convoy. Why are not these targeted? Learn from the Afghans! Roadside bombs ...
Guerrilla warfare should be planned a prepared. Once a territory falls into enemy hands, it should start right away. A few well selected targets causing significant losses makes it somewhat less risky for those risking their lives.

2. Hit the enemy at it's weakest point: the Russians have logistical and supply problems. (They probably only want to negotiate to refill their supplies) Targeting their storages and vehicles transporting supplies seems like an effective strategy.

3. Street fights: It seems most Russians do not have night-vision equipment and training. So they only fight from dawn. They could be attacked while they are sleeping. The very least preventing their sleep might be useful.

The human cost is just terrible. Civilians hiding in uncomfortable shelters without proper sleep, limited food and water ... being a kid in such a terror ...
Human kind had two gigantic lessons to learn from in the 20th century ... some did not learn a thing which shows that they are pure evil.

Last edited by Leslie7 (2022-02-28 12:00:51)

flydev · 2022-02-28 14:02:17

Doing war with guns and missiles in 2022.. Please stay safe mpv ... I also have a thought for the russian people who don't agree... I was going to ask help about a programming thing but after reading this thread I'm going to get some sleep... what a madness

Last edited by flydev (2022-02-28 14:03:44)

uian2000 · 2022-02-28 14:38:21

Please stay safe ....

sakura · 2022-03-02 06:02:18

Hi Pavlo,

i haven't been online since last week - taking a break from work working on other things. This war has been long in coming and is as insane as it gets. I am ashamed of the sub-par response from Europe and the world as to this aggression. Nowadays all you get is a few sanctions, usually hitting the people, rather than the leaders. Which of them cares not being allowed to fly into Europe - but the honest people are blocked from traveling. And it is certainly no help at all to you as Ukrainians. I just hope politicians finally get their asses up and send some real help to you. Putin ain't stoppin' there...

Regards,
Daniel

lagodny · 2022-03-03 07:45:10

In Ukraine, we now have to fight for our lives and the lives of our families. I ask everyone to bring the truth to the Russians. Because their lies have already crossed all boundaries.
Stop the war!

Leslie7 · 2022-03-04 08:31:41

lagodny wrote:

In Ukraine, we now have to fight for our lives and the lives of our families. I ask everyone to bring the truth to the Russians. Because their lies have already crossed all boundaries.
Stop the war!

If only all Russians were properly informed it would probably have ended this war by now. Many of them simply had no idea what was happening. Luckily ugly propaganda cannot hide the consequences of the sanctions, which will be a wake up call for many. The turning point is when the propaganda is no longer effective and people realize that their country is the brutal aggressor. The only way putin can stay in power somewhat longer is through martial law. In this case it's main purpose is to mislead and silence the inside opposition.

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skywalker · 2022-03-16 05:46:43

My name is Alkin Yusufov and I live i Varna, Bulgaria.
I have been following this forum, thanks to the great work of Arnaud.
I didn't contribute through these years, BUT ...
I realizized that we are a small community that can overcan all obstacacles.
I would like to offer Pavel (mpv) my hospitality for his family.

P.S.: Pavel can not leave the country, because all men are called in the army,
I would liked to preserve his family for the times after the war!

Last edited by skywalker (2022-03-16 07:56:24)

mpv · 2022-07-18 07:55:30

145 days of war In march our army stop russians about 10 km from place where I live. Nearest destroyed house is 300 meters from me.

Me and my family is OK, but some of my friends are injured, many of them lost all they have (one is mORMot contributor).

Thanks all for support, especially for Eugene (I lived in Soviet Union фтв know how hard is to say something inside a country with total censorship and terror).
Alkin, thanks for your proposition! Currently mans from Ukraine can`t leave a country. In any case I will not leave - it is my land, it is my country and my freedom, and I will do everything to win.

Sorry for the late reply - I haven't been very comfortable writing posts. Now it's a little easier....

squirrel · 2022-07-19 09:00:19

Our thoughts and prayers are with you and the Ukraine people. This war should never have started. We hope it ends quickly.

Leslie7 · 2022-07-23 19:13:27

mpv wrote:

145 days of war

Really appreciate the update. Glimps of the reality you and many Ukrainian people are facing every day.
Stay strong!

koraycayiroglu · 2022-07-26 11:34:34

What the Ukrainian people are going through is really sad, war is never a solution. Human beings need to overcome this, but unfortunately, selfish and self-interested people are always in administration. My prayers are with you and the Ukraine people too. I hope this stupid war will end soon.

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